{"id":47,"date":"2008-11-21T12:07:52","date_gmt":"2008-11-21T12:07:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/prodos.solidvox.com\/?p=47"},"modified":"2008-11-21T12:07:52","modified_gmt":"2008-11-21T12:07:52","slug":"viv-forbes-carbon-sense-coalition","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/prodos.solidvox.com\/?p=47","title":{"rendered":"Viv Forbes: Carbon Sense Coalition"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><a href=\"http:\/\/solidvox.com\/pw-viv-forbes-01.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Click here to listen or download this interview<\/a><br \/>\n(mp3, 8 MB)<\/p>\n<p>Guest: <strong>Viv Forbes<\/strong> from the <a href=\"http:\/\/carbon-sense.com\/about\/\" target=\"_blank\">Carbon Sense Coalition<\/a><\/p>\n<p><img decoding=\"async\" title=\"Viv Forbes, Carbon Sense Coalition, Australia: Global Warming Skeptic\" alt=\"Viv Forbes, Carbon Sense Coalition, Australia: Global Warming Skeptic\" src=\"http:\/\/solidvox.com\/Viv_Forbes_Carbon_Sense_Coalition_04.jpg\" \/><br \/>\n<span style=\"font-style: italic\">Global Warming skeptic: Viv Forbes<\/span><br style=\"font-style: italic\" \/><span style=\"font-style: italic\">Carbon Sense Coalition, Queensland, Australia<\/span><\/p>\n<p>Just back from the Heartland Institute&#8217;s <a href=\"http:\/\/www.heartland.org\/NewYork08\/newyork08.cfm\" target=\"_blank\">2008 International Conference on Climate Change<\/a> in New York, <span style=\"font-weight: bold\">Viv Forbes<\/span> who runs the Australian based <a href=\"http:\/\/www.carbon-sense.com\/\" target=\"_blank\">Carbon Sense Coalition<\/a>, spoke on <a title=\"PRODOS Worldwide on the SOLID VOX Network\" href=\"http:\/\/prodos.solidvox.com\" target=\"_blank\">PRODOS Worldwide<\/a> about why he rejects the hysterical &#8220;consensus&#8221; on Global Warming.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Topics covered include<\/strong> &#8230;<\/p>\n<p>How Carbon and Carbon Dioxide has been vilified and demonized by Global Warming alarmists.<\/p>\n<p>The stupidity of designating Carbon Dioxide as a pollutant &#8211; because it isn&#8217;t.<\/p>\n<p>How much Carbon Dioxide is there in the atmosphere? Where does it come from?<\/p>\n<p>The earth&#8217;s oceans as &#8220;the lungs of the planet&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;beer test&#8221; for understanding how CO2 is absorbed or emitted by H2O (water).<\/p>\n<p>What would happen if Carbon Dioxide was doubled or tripled? And what happens when you add &#8220;more blankets&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Water vapor as the primary greenhouse gas.<\/p>\n<p>The real &#8220;debate&#8221; is about the politics &#8211; not the science.<\/p>\n<p>Global Warming and &#8220;consensus&#8221; myths promoted by the Sierra Club.<\/p>\n<p>The Earth&#8217;s warming and cooling seems in fact to be within the bounds of natural &#8211; not anthropogenic variations.<\/p>\n<p>Two types of scientists: The model builders and manipulators versus the real scientists who measure actual temperature and carbon dioxide evidence.<\/p>\n<p>Warming drives Carbon Dioxide. Carbon Dioxide does not drive warming.<\/p>\n<p>New evidence regarding solar magnetic activity, and cosmic radiation and the effect on clouds. Low level clouds are the key to understanding warming and cooling &#8211; not Carbon Dioxide.<\/p>\n<p>Cargo cult mentality of IPCC&#8217;s politicized scientists.<\/p>\n<p>The &#8220;Greenhouse religion.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Greens consider humanity a blot on nature.<\/p>\n<p>Pseudo scientific scare mongering of the past.<\/p>\n<p>The huge international network of global warming skeptics.<\/p>\n<p>Surviving as a skeptic &#8211; being maligned, being forced to resign or forced to shut up.<\/p>\n<p>About a recent book, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.amazon.com\/gp\/product\/1840468157?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=iloveprodosco-20\" target=\"_blank\">The Chilling Stars<\/a> by <a href=\"http:\/\/discovermagazine.com\/2007\/jul\/the-discover-interview-henrik-svensmark\/article_view?b_start:int=3&#038;-C=\" target=\"_blank\">Henrik Svensmark<\/a> and <a href=\"http:\/\/www.timesonline.co.uk\/tol\/news\/uk\/article1363818.ece\" target=\"_blank\">Nigel Calder<\/a> which investigates the role of cosmic radiation and solar activity (in particular the sun&#8217;s magnetic activity), and their effects on clouds in influencing global warming and cooling.<\/p>\n<p>The millions of dollars of funding that Carbon Sense Coalition receives from Exxon, Big Tobacco, Big Oil sponsorship (just kidding!)<\/p>\n<p>Big Business is getting into carbon emissions trading, pursuing &#8220;protected profits&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Viv Forbes rejects the view put forward by libertarian John Humphreys (in a policy monograph for the Centre for Independent Studies, founded by <a href=\"http:\/\/www.cis.org.au\/aboutcis\/staff.html\" target=\"_blank\">Greg Lindsay<\/a>) that a &#8220;revenue neutral&#8221; Carbon Tax would result in &#8220;no economic costs&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>However does argue that a Carbon Tax would be less bad than emissions trading because the public will like it less and claims it is less likely to entrench vested interests (Prodos: I disagree with Viv Forbes on this).<\/p>\n<p><strong>Some more useful links<\/strong><a href=\"http:\/\/www.junkscience.com\/Greenhouse\/\" target=\"_blank\" \/><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.junkscience.com\/Greenhouse\/\" target=\"_blank\">Some facts about greenhouse and global warming<\/a><br \/>\nBy <strong>Steve Milloy<\/strong>, JunkScience.com<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/prodos.thinkertothinker.com\/?p=425\" target=\"_blank\">3 articles by <strong>Gerard Jackson<\/strong> on the destructive effect of a Carbon Tax<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/prodos.thinkertothinker.com\/?p=425\" target=\"_blank\" \/><a href=\"http:\/\/planetmars.thinkertothinker.com\/?p=53\" target=\"_blank\">PlanetMars is offering a prize for the biggest carbon footprint<\/a><\/p>\n<p>Listen to speeches by Global Warming skeptics and critics from Heartland Institute&#8217;s International Conference on Climate Change. <a href=\"http:\/\/www.heartland.org\/NewYork08\/audio.cfm\" target=\"_blank\">CLICK HERE<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/solidvox.com\/pw-viv-forbes-01.mp3\" target=\"_blank\">Click here to listen or download this interview<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Click here to listen or download this interview (mp3, 8 MB) Guest: Viv Forbes from the Carbon Sense Coalition Global Warming skeptic: Viv ForbesCarbon Sense Coalition, Queensland, Australia Just back from the Heartland Institute&#8217;s 2008 International Conference on Climate Change in New York, Viv Forbes who runs the Australian based Carbon Sense Coalition, spoke on &hellip; 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